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okay here is our interview with lucas le

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pegian

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so tell us real quick the the background

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of this

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bar and grill it's the oldest in the

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city of burbank right

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yes uh established 1937.

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yeah and it still kind of maintains

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it it seems to kind of maintain the

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um there have been many owners i don't

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believe that

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my fa that it's been tin horn the whole

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time

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and it's been 10 horn since like the 60s

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or 70s but the establishment and the

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everything has been there uh-huh and

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also well-known in the film industry

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with stunt guys you got to hang out

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there etc

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yep yep uh super popular spot to film

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i mean uh just a couple years ago uh

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captain marvel was filmed there

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oh cool and it's got kind of a western

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theme which is near and dear to my heart

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because uh

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recently i kind of took up country music

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and i keep

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telling people that la needs more kind

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of just

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regular down-home western kind of bars

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because they really

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they're few and far between in la yeah

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yeah very western um it's legitimate

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western too

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yeah and so your dad bought it 19

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years ago um he had never been in the

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bar business before right

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yes yes he bought about 19 years ago

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it's been in the family then

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he said a bears bar i i said that he he

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had never owned one before a bar right

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uh no that was his first that was his

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first restaurant that he

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that he that he uh invested in yeah

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and and now he's turned it over to you

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his 20 year old son

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correct as well as my 25 year old sister

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gotcha

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and and he's he's living in thailand now

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correct um about in the year

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2019 august right after my birthday when

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i went off to college

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and my sister started her new job at

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carl strauss

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in downtown l.a and she lives out here

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now

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my father had an opportunity to to go to

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thailand for business

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and he took that opportunity thinking

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everything will be okay you know

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monster he was running the restaurant he

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had reliable

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uh employees so uh there's this

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opportunity and then all this covet

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nonsense hit and then he stuck there

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kind of oh yeah has he actually

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wanted to return from thailand but been

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um the reason he hasn't returned from

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thailand is because

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he's been asking me like hey do you like

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do you want me to come back from

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thailand and i said there's no need

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um i think i have been under control

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as well as my sister we're a really good

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team

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and there was just no reason for him to

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come back from thailand and we and

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except to like visit us of course but i

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i prefer to go over there

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yeah i'll i'll join you we'll go

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interview your dad

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uh so so give us the lay of the land at

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the time that coveted hits how many

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employees did you guys have at that time

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just kind of described for us quickly

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what the business condition was in it

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before covett hit we had around

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10 employees i want to say

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me my sister were working there close to

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full time

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just making sure everything was in check

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and we had a lot

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of other people

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that worked with tinhorn that relied on

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tenor and

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um like you know like buy some food um

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just cleaning crew whatever it was that

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depended on tin horn

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for work and uh uh an income as well

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and and and you and your sister this was

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basically your full-time jobs at the

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time in your source of income

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yeah it still is but yeah so

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um when when covet hits you guys are

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ordered to

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shut down and did you guys shut down

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in the beginning we did in march

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we shut down completely complied but

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november the second or third lockdown

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whatever it was is a completely

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different story we did not

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right so yeah as i recall it's been

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going on so long now it's hard to

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remember all this but um california

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closed and then kind of

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reopened to uh outdoor

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dining and um did they even allow indoor

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dining

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last summer for a period yes for a very

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brief

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was indoor and outdoor dining but it was

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just simply not the same it wasn't um

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a lot of people were scared to come out

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of their house and didn't know what was

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going on

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a lot of people lost their jobs so

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they're afraid to go out and eat spend

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money which i totally understand but

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there was a brief period in summer that

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there was indoor dining and then they

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did outdoor dining only

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and then uh wonderful gavin newsom who

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just got recalled

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said hey no we gotta shut it down again

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so and that was in when was it that you

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first started

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going against the orders of newsome

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it was the beginning of december and

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tell me what was going on in your head

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at the time when you decided you know

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enough is enough

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uh when we heard that we had to shut

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down again we just said hey

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you know we we can't survive another

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shutdown

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so you know we just risked it we did uh

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we had nothing to lose so we

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continue to stay open and what about

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ppe or the various p money

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that you know i'm not i have a lot of

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friends who own businesses that have

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taken advantage of it

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i i don't know all the ins and outs of

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it but bottom line did you guys

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receive any of that uh

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40 grand 50 grand max

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um in a full year though that's the

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you know um 50 grand in a year to a

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appreciated but just simply not enough

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to maintain business

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especially at uh to go takeouts only

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and that it definitely took a big hit um

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if we were getting like

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20 grand a month like half that like 20

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we would have completely uh complied but

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the fact that we only got 50 grand or

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whatever much money we got

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in a full 12 months is laughable

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same with a lot of other businesses too

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so um what what was the

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financial situation uh like starting

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with first of all like

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do you guys own the the real estate or

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are you leasing it from a landlord

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correct uh it's family-owned real estate

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and we own the

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business as well and did you guys own it

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outright or do you have a mortgage with

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a bank

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you say that again do you are you guys

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have monthly payments to a bank

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on it or you guys own 100 no no we we

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own the building

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so you guys compared to other

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restaurants actually were kind of

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in somewhat better shape you didn't have

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lease payments to make you didn't have

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mortgage payments to make but you had

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payroll

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to make and right you

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your livelihood depended on your

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sister's livelihood depended on it

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but still but you know and i know

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other restaurants have done similar to

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you but you're a rare breed

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that that chose to do what you did

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um take us inside your mind and your

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sister and the conversation that you

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guys had

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when you decided you know what we're not

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going to follow this order

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oh gosh i remember my father posting it

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on the tinhorn instagram announcing that

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we will

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continue to stay open on our patios

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10th i'd like to say and he was saying i

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abiding by all covered guidelines we're

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whatever the guidelines were very

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strictly we were

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and we were not doing indoor dining

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whatsoever we continued just to do

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outdoor dining on our wonderful

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and it was it was awesome for the most

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me my sisters that were running in uh

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inside were definitely nervous

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as to what the outcomes were going to be

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due to us

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going against the the stay-at-home order

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and these men but uh we still we still

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yeah and and to be clear again

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at that time california was not even

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people to sit outside and eat right in

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fact i i remember when that order

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came down because that very weekend i

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had a dinner party at my house

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because every weekend we typically go

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out to dinner with friends

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and you couldn't even sit outside

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anywhere for dinner so

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instead we said well everybody come to

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my house so instead of us

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dining outside as we had been at a

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restaurant instead we were dining inside

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in my dining room six or eight people

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around the dining table

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right what sense does this make right

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right and

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that's kind of the i i want to say irony

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is that

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um people are allowed to go not allowed

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but people are going to each other's

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homes for dinner parties and

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gatherings with uh almost like i want to

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say

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no covert restrictions whereas if you

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come to a restaurant there are coveted

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restrictions we are

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putting six feet between people we are

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at the time we were

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like asking people to wear their masks

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all that uh guideline

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rules but uh the fact that people were

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were not able to go to restaurants so

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they'd go to each other's homes and

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including super bowl parties was almost

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illegal

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including hunter biden i remember

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famously went to a super bowl party uh

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close to where i live actually yeah

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exactly

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but uh yeah and technically my little

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dinner party was

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illegal but come on we're really going

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to start

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uh enforcing a law that says that i

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can't people have

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friends over to my house to eat and i

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remember some of the ridiculous rules

287
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that they had

288
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that you know if you did have people

289
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over you must be outside you must be

290
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wearing a mask in between bites

291
00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:39,680
you must be social distanced um and then

292
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there was the issue of the bathroom it's

293
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like well if you're eating outside

294
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what if somebody has to go to the

295
00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:46,160
restroom so the california officials

296
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thought about that

297
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into their credit and decided that well

298
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we'll say that it's okay

299
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to use the bathroom provided that it's

300
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one person at a time

301
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and that the bathroom we're talking

302
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about in somebody's home

303
00:11:06,069 --> 00:11:04,000
is properly sanitized after each use

304
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so the homeowner must be trained i guess

305
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in proper sanitation

306
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of a bathroom and must after each guest

307
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uses the restroom

308
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excuse themselves from from their

309
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outside dinner and

310
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and go sanitize the bathroom that's how

311
00:11:23,269 --> 00:11:20,959
nuts things were in california

312
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at that time at the time that you guys

313
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decided you know

314
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uh enough is enough so so when you guys

315
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violated the order

316
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we're not talking about indoor dining

317
00:11:35,430 --> 00:11:32,640
you guys are only doing outdoor

318
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only doing outdoor we were uh very

319
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skeptical about it

320
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and so we just kept to the outdoor i

321
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mean we did have a pretty massive patio

322
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we had about a 50

323
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patio absolutely slammed and we were

324
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filling up the patio

325
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and we had lines out the door our lines

326
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we

327
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did not put anyone inside just to

328
00:11:58,629 --> 00:11:57,120
um i just abide by the koga guidelines

329
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and play it safe

330
00:12:02,069 --> 00:12:01,040
almost on what i'd like to say but the

331
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lines out the door

332
00:12:05,350 --> 00:12:04,800
no doubt attracted attention so what

333
00:12:08,389 --> 00:12:05,360
happens

334
00:12:10,870 --> 00:12:08,399
what happened what happened next

335
00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:10,880
it did um the health department was

336
00:12:15,829 --> 00:12:12,480
constantly coming in

337
00:12:19,030 --> 00:12:15,839
uh citing us for not closing down not

338
00:12:22,949 --> 00:12:19,040
um not complying with the

339
00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:22,959
mandates and the stay-at-home orders and

340
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um a lot of the city council members

341
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when they would listen to phone calls

342
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and hearings about us people would be

343
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complaining

344
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inside and how unsafe it is and this and

345
00:12:36,790 --> 00:12:35,440
that but you know that's completely out

346
00:12:39,190 --> 00:12:36,800
of our control

347
00:12:40,310 --> 00:12:39,200
um we're i'm not gonna go outside and

348
00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:40,320
tell these people

349
00:12:44,550 --> 00:12:42,959
to stand further away from each other

350
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it's their choice

351
00:12:48,470 --> 00:12:46,639
to stand in that line to however close

352
00:12:52,389 --> 00:12:48,480
they are to one another that's

353
00:12:55,750 --> 00:12:52,399
completely outside of uh

354
00:12:58,230 --> 00:12:55,760
outside of my reach to tell

355
00:12:59,670 --> 00:12:58,240
other people not to come in or to come

356
00:13:01,990 --> 00:12:59,680
in the tin horn you know

357
00:13:02,790 --> 00:13:02,000
we're protein horn if you want to do

358
00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:02,800
something

359
00:13:06,470 --> 00:13:05,440
that's totally normal you go ahead and

360
00:13:09,350 --> 00:13:06,480
do if you want to sit

361
00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:09,360
next to someone at our outside bar you

362
00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:10,800
do it you know it's it's

363
00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:13,600
their choice people know they're less

364
00:13:18,629 --> 00:13:14,560
than one percent

365
00:13:20,949 --> 00:13:18,639
risk of possibly getting the virus and

366
00:13:21,990 --> 00:13:20,959
whatever it is but we just wanted to let

367
00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:22,000
people

368
00:13:25,829 --> 00:13:24,160
live their lives come on in have a

369
00:13:28,629 --> 00:13:25,839
burger and some beer

370
00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:28,639
and enjoy themselves while me employees

371
00:13:31,829 --> 00:13:29,760
as well as my sister

372
00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:31,839
uh continue our livelihood and make some

373
00:13:34,870 --> 00:13:33,600
dough yeah

374
00:13:36,710 --> 00:13:34,880
yeah it's as you said it's called

375
00:13:37,670 --> 00:13:36,720
personal choice it's called individual

376
00:13:39,829 --> 00:13:37,680
freedom

377
00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,839
certainly um the government put out

378
00:13:43,030 --> 00:13:41,360
plenty of information regarding the

379
00:13:44,470 --> 00:13:43,040
risks of covid you know good job

380
00:13:46,550 --> 00:13:44,480
government to

381
00:13:48,870 --> 00:13:46,560
warn us and let us know of the risks

382
00:13:50,870 --> 00:13:48,880
they let us know that if you're elderly

383
00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:50,880
you're at high risk if you've got

384
00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:52,560
certain pre-existing conditions

385
00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:55,440
you're at high risk if you're under 25

386
00:13:59,670 --> 00:13:56,560
you're at virtually

387
00:14:01,829 --> 00:13:59,680
zero risk if you're under 60

388
00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:01,839
you're at virtual you know at very in

389
00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:02,800
healthy you're at

390
00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:06,480
very low risk so allowing people to make

391
00:14:11,110 --> 00:14:08,000
their own decision

392
00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:11,120
about their own bodies in their own life

393
00:14:16,629 --> 00:14:14,320
as far as what risk to take

394
00:14:18,949 --> 00:14:16,639
you know just as we choose to get in a

395
00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:18,959
car and put our lives on the line

396
00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:22,079
every time we get in a car your position

397
00:14:24,150 --> 00:14:23,040
was

398
00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:24,160
people should be able to make that own

399
00:14:27,509 --> 00:14:25,680
decision about having a burger and a

400
00:14:30,550 --> 00:14:27,519
beer

401
00:14:32,470 --> 00:14:30,560
right right and um you know it it's my

402
00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:32,480
50 person patio that's

403
00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:35,839
totally out of line and you know

404
00:14:39,990 --> 00:14:37,920
we're known as a grandma killers and a

405
00:14:42,470 --> 00:14:40,000
public nuisance and just

406
00:14:43,430 --> 00:14:42,480
absolutely outrageous but that 200

407
00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:43,440
person

408
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:46,800
um airplane ride you get on is totally

409
00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:48,880
okay because covet doesn't attack you

410
00:14:53,030 --> 00:14:51,360
when you're uh when you're on air and

411
00:14:55,030 --> 00:14:53,040
they only attack you when you're at a

412
00:14:57,269 --> 00:14:55,040
small business dining outside

413
00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:57,279
especially if you're watching tv if

414
00:15:00,230 --> 00:14:58,959
you're watching tv oh you're gonna get

415
00:15:01,189 --> 00:15:00,240
it all right if you're watching tv

416
00:15:03,430 --> 00:15:01,199
that's why they had to

417
00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:03,440
turn off the tvs yeah the rays coming

418
00:15:08,310 --> 00:15:05,440
from the television somehow enhance

419
00:15:09,509 --> 00:15:08,320
the the activity of the covet virus yeah

420
00:15:10,389 --> 00:15:09,519
i think that's why you're gonna

421
00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:10,399
ultimately

422
00:15:14,470 --> 00:15:12,639
be on good legal grounds here i assume

423
00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:14,480
basically your position was this was an

424
00:15:18,470 --> 00:15:15,440
illegal

425
00:15:21,350 --> 00:15:18,480
order because it had no rational basis

426
00:15:23,990 --> 00:15:21,360
they were limiting individual freedom

427
00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:24,000
with a which is a constitutional right

428
00:15:27,509 --> 00:15:26,560
without a rational basis to do it

429
00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:27,519
without a

430
00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:29,920
sufficient scientific basis to do it

431
00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:30,880
because the studies

432
00:15:34,389 --> 00:15:33,600
still are unclear and it wasn't rational

433
00:15:37,189 --> 00:15:34,399
because as

434
00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:37,199
you rightly point out you're allowing

435
00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:38,000
this

436
00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:41,440
200 people on an airplane x number of

437
00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:41,920
people

438
00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:45,120
in a target store etc

439
00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:47,519
but outdoor dining on your patio that

440
00:15:52,829 --> 00:15:48,800
was not deemed

441
00:15:59,350 --> 00:15:56,470
uh valued human activity

442
00:16:01,269 --> 00:15:59,360
right by by by newsom and his people

443
00:16:03,230 --> 00:16:01,279
they didn't value that activity so

444
00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:03,240
so you're you're considering a

445
00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:06,160
non-financial business and i absolutely

446
00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:07,759
hate that term being called a

447
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:09,680
non-essential business like who the hell

448
00:16:13,189 --> 00:16:10,480
are they

449
00:16:15,189 --> 00:16:13,199
to tell me and my family that our

450
00:16:15,910 --> 00:16:15,199
business is not essential because in the

451
00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:15,920
end of the day

452
00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:18,399
my family thinks rs uh paycheck is

453
00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:19,199
essential

454
00:16:23,189 --> 00:16:21,519
uh the employees that tend to think that

455
00:16:25,030 --> 00:16:23,199
their job is essential their families

456
00:16:28,069 --> 00:16:25,040
think their job is essential

457
00:16:28,790 --> 00:16:28,079
um we're strong believers obviously we

458
00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:28,800
think and

459
00:16:32,550 --> 00:16:30,720
so do a lot of other people think that

460
00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:32,560
every single business

461
00:16:35,430 --> 00:16:34,000
is essential if legitimate if you're

462
00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:35,440
paying your taxes you're paying your

463
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:39,590
you're following the guidelines you are

464
00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:41,440
an essential business despite what you

465
00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:43,440
are including strip clubs

466
00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,040
including uh factories and

467
00:16:50,230 --> 00:16:49,279
uh even these big corporations or small

468
00:16:53,189 --> 00:16:50,240
small

469
00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:53,199
businesses like uh like shoe shops

470
00:16:57,829 --> 00:16:54,240
whatever you

471
00:17:00,310 --> 00:16:57,839
are you are an essential if you

472
00:17:01,269 --> 00:17:00,320
legitimate yeah yeah who who is

473
00:17:03,509 --> 00:17:01,279
government today

474
00:17:06,069 --> 00:17:03,519
to dictate what is essential and what is

475
00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:06,079
not especially if

476
00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:09,120
you are um putting in safety

477
00:17:12,150 --> 00:17:11,360
guidelines so you know people are

478
00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:12,160
individually

479
00:17:15,829 --> 00:17:14,400
choosing to take the risk you guys are

480
00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:15,839
putting in place

481
00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:18,160
guidelines to make it even safer for

482
00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:19,679
them and yet the government's still

483
00:17:22,230 --> 00:17:20,480
going to

484
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:22,240
say it's illegal let me ask you as far

485
00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:23,760
as your guy's background work where's

486
00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,199
your dad from

487
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,760
he was born in germany my mother was

488
00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:29,360
born in armenia

489
00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:33,360
but we uh we're in armenian heritage

490
00:17:36,630 --> 00:17:35,360
and you were born in the states i was

491
00:17:38,230 --> 00:17:36,640
born in here i was born in los angeles i

492
00:17:39,430 --> 00:17:38,240
was actually born in burbank at uh st

493
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:39,440
joseph's hospital

494
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:41,440
gotcha but but but two two immigrant

495
00:17:47,110 --> 00:17:42,960
parents basically

496
00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:47,120
yes both my parents are immigrant so

497
00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:48,720
you know this grandma killer stuff i'm

498
00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:50,720
curious who were the people that were

499
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:52,080
out there

500
00:17:58,950 --> 00:17:55,520
vocally speaking out against you guys

501
00:18:02,549 --> 00:17:58,960
in burbank um it was a left

502
00:18:04,870 --> 00:18:02,559
it was uh the democrats in liberty

503
00:18:06,789 --> 00:18:04,880
thought that believe in all these lies

504
00:18:09,110 --> 00:18:06,799
and these media lies and how

505
00:18:10,470 --> 00:18:09,120
uh cnn reporting that there's over five

506
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:10,480
hundred thousand deaths

507
00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,520
and it's those people that belie and i

508
00:18:17,510 --> 00:18:15,600
i personally don't believe that uh there

509
00:18:18,710 --> 00:18:17,520
have been 500 000 deaths in the united

510
00:18:22,630 --> 00:18:18,720
states from coven

511
00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:25,990
that's except that a lot of them were

512
00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:26,720
not

513
00:18:31,029 --> 00:18:28,799
only due to the fact of covid i mean

514
00:18:33,270 --> 00:18:31,039
i've heard a lot of like uh

515
00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:33,280
cancer cancer patients dying that had

516
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:34,640
covered and they're blaming it

517
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,960
uh only on a covet death rather than

518
00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:38,480
their stage four cancers i was going to

519
00:18:42,070 --> 00:18:40,480
kill them anyway sadly

520
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,080
so um the people that are just

521
00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:44,400
completely against us are

522
00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:46,880
government moochers and honestly in the

523
00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:48,320
end of the day just

524
00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:51,919
utter losers and but were there people

525
00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:53,200
in particular you mentioned the city

526
00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:54,720
council was there's people on the border

527
00:18:59,830 --> 00:18:57,840
city council that specifically were

528
00:19:01,029 --> 00:18:59,840
addressing you guys and saying and

529
00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:01,039
pointing out you guys as

530
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:05,039
bad actors yeah the city council

531
00:19:09,270 --> 00:19:08,240
is completely us especially the one

532
00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:09,280
council member

533
00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:11,760
uh constantine anthony who is an open

534
00:19:16,230 --> 00:19:13,200
socialist

535
00:19:17,669 --> 00:19:16,240
um they believe that we are a health

536
00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:17,679
hazard and

537
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:20,880
um a public nuisance is

538
00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:24,799
what um we're being charged with and

539
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:32,150
stupid um accusations against us

540
00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:34,320
yeah so let's go back to the story so

541
00:19:37,110 --> 00:19:35,440
you get these

542
00:19:39,669 --> 00:19:37,120
health notices where were these

543
00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:39,679
essentially fines

544
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:42,240
yes um we have been fined close to i

545
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:44,480
wanna say about fifty thousand dollars

546
00:19:51,669 --> 00:19:48,880
wow fifty thousand dollars in fines

547
00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:51,679
yet you continue to operate yes and and

548
00:19:54,789 --> 00:19:52,559
then

549
00:19:56,070 --> 00:19:54,799
ultimately they tried to physically shut

550
00:19:58,789 --> 00:19:56,080
you down

551
00:20:00,710 --> 00:19:58,799
yes um well the fifty thousand dollars

552
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:00,720
in five

553
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,919
we didn't pay any of it and then um it

554
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,600
really started heating up

555
00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:07,440
when um they started boarding up the

556
00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:09,520
wall the the doors they cut off our

557
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:10,799
electricity

558
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:12,640
padlocking the doors but you know that

559
00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:13,919
was no problem for me

560
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:16,640
because i just got got some tools and

561
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,400
just cut them right off i mean it did

562
00:20:22,789 --> 00:20:20,799
take me a while it's a total

563
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:22,799
pain to do it but you know i just did

564
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:24,159
what i had to do to

565
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:26,320
operate business and make a living did

566
00:20:29,909 --> 00:20:28,720
you who put the padlocks on the door was

567
00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:29,919
it the police

568
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:32,400
uh the city of birmingham high i want uh

569
00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:34,240
i know fire department did it

570
00:20:39,430 --> 00:20:37,840
as well as some private contractor

571
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:39,440
hired by the city of burbank so not the

572
00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:42,400
police total waste of tax money yes

573
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:46,559
and um pursuant to what i mean

574
00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:49,120
what what gave them the power to shut

575
00:20:52,789 --> 00:20:50,880
you down i mean i get the fine

576
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:52,799
part of it but to actually come and

577
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:53,919
physically

578
00:20:58,470 --> 00:20:56,720
try to prevent you from conducting your

579
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:58,480
business

580
00:21:05,270 --> 00:21:01,679
they did have a court order to

581
00:21:08,149 --> 00:21:05,280
do some of the barricading

582
00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:08,159
um such as padlock yes they were able to

583
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,120
padlock it

584
00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,760
i don't believe they were able to uh put

585
00:21:16,390 --> 00:21:13,120
the wooden

586
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:16,400
um planks above on

587
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:19,360
on our doors especially when they would

588
00:21:23,990 --> 00:21:20,159
jump on

589
00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:24,000
inside of the of the patio by climbing

590
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,440
the outside wall they would jump on

591
00:21:28,149 --> 00:21:27,520
through open the door and then padlock

592
00:21:33,110 --> 00:21:28,159
both

593
00:21:35,350 --> 00:21:33,120
from the inside leading to the outside

594
00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,360
patio they would um board up that one

595
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:36,799
as well as they brought up the one on

596
00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:38,000
the side so they were actually

597
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:40,000
authorized by the judge to do that

598
00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:41,600
but they were not because you hadn't

599
00:21:46,230 --> 00:21:43,679
because you hadn't paid the fines

600
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,240
so this was not complying overall it

601
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,919
wasn't really about the fines i mean

602
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,679
what the city wanted us to do was pay

603
00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:51,360
the fines and just completely shut down

604
00:21:55,909 --> 00:21:53,520
which was

605
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:55,919
pretty moronic okay so let's talk about

606
00:22:02,870 --> 00:21:56,960
your first

607
00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:02,880
um so i was just i was driving home i

608
00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:03,919
was just driving

609
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,960
and then i get pulled over i get coughed

610
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:08,240
and i get taken to jail

611
00:22:13,669 --> 00:22:10,960
and um what i'm getting charged for is

612
00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:13,679
violating the court order

613
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,039
and um that that they had on me

614
00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:19,520
uh that the city has on me for entering

615
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:21,600
my own family's business like the

616
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:24,320
uh the property of tinhorn flats so the

617
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:25,200
city is

618
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:27,600
uh has a restraining order on me and my

619
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:29,520
family from entering tinhorn flats

620
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:33,360
our own um business and our own property

621
00:22:37,270 --> 00:22:36,240
right denied denial of property rights

622
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,280
that's a taking

623
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,039
you know they've basically taken and i

624
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:41,039
mean it's not just you it it's everybody

625
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:43,919
they basically took everybody's property

626
00:22:48,070 --> 00:22:44,640
yeah

627
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,080
business

628
00:22:51,110 --> 00:22:50,080
yeah which you know i don't know how all

629
00:22:51,990 --> 00:22:51,120
this is going to play out in court

630
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,000
because there's going to be lots of

631
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:54,400
court cases emanating from these coveted

632
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:56,480
lockdowns but you know this could be

633
00:23:00,630 --> 00:22:58,640
deemed a constitutional taking

634
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:00,640
which means you are your due

635
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:02,000
compensation

636
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:03,600
from the government for all of your

637
00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:05,440
losses associated with them taking your

638
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:08,000
business from

639
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:11,360
mean this could this could bankrupt

640
00:23:16,710 --> 00:23:14,640
you know cities across california

641
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,720
if if if some judges start saying that

642
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:18,000
this was

643
00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:19,760
a taking i mean you know they're doing

644
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:21,200
it for the public good

645
00:23:24,789 --> 00:23:22,799
okay so be it you're doing it for the

646
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:24,799
public good just just like other times

647
00:23:27,110 --> 00:23:25,360
that they

648
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:27,120
take somebody's land to build a railroad

649
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,559
or whatever but they always have to

650
00:23:33,430 --> 00:23:30,400
compensate the individual

651
00:23:35,029 --> 00:23:33,440
right right so that that's how this

652
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,039
could all end up shaking out

653
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,600
so so you wind up in jail and how many

654
00:23:41,350 --> 00:23:39,280
hours are you in a jail cell

655
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:41,360
that time so for the first time i was

656
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,440
only in there for two hours

657
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,600
um but yeah i was only in there for two

658
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:47,039
hours the second time i was in there for

659
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:48,720
about four hours and the third time i

660
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:50,320
was there for five hours

661
00:23:54,149 --> 00:23:52,720
overall i was super lucky that my sister

662
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:54,159
just absolutely handled it and got me

663
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:55,200
there as quick as

664
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:57,919
got me out quick as possible and she had

665
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:00,720
to post bail for you each time

666
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:03,520
um only the second time because the

667
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:04,720
first time

668
00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:09,600
didn't have a bail do the coven

669
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:11,600
i believe they told me and then the

670
00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:13,600
second time so the only way that covet

671
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:14,480
actually

672
00:24:18,789 --> 00:24:17,039
worked in your favor i guess best

673
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:18,799
because they probably didn't want people

674
00:24:24,870 --> 00:24:22,870
they probably didn't want too many

675
00:24:27,669 --> 00:24:24,880
people in the jails so

676
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,679
they were not requiring bail correct and

677
00:24:30,870 --> 00:24:29,440
then actually any coveted guideline

678
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:30,880
actually helped me out

679
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:33,600
right and then the second time how much

680
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:35,200
did she have to post what was bail

681
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:38,400
uh bail was five five thousand dollars

682
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,440
um we went through a bail bonds agency

683
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,600
but yeah no i just i was just driving

684
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:45,679
home again and then they got me driving

685
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:46,240
home

686
00:24:50,470 --> 00:24:47,919
they took me to jail i was in there for

687
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,480
much longer i was there for four hours

688
00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:52,799
and then we got the bail and then i was

689
00:24:58,230 --> 00:24:54,880
out of there

690
00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:58,240
so so they are finding you driving

691
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,240
how are the police tracking you down

692
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,679
yeah just driving around

693
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,520
i i guess there's an all points bulletin

694
00:25:07,669 --> 00:25:05,120
to look for your car

695
00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:07,679
yeah i i literally see it happen i mean

696
00:25:10,789 --> 00:25:09,600
the second time i was almost expecting i

697
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:10,799
was like wow are they going to arrest me

698
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:11,840
again so

699
00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:14,400
i'm driving down magnolia to a hollywood

700
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:15,279
way

701
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:18,559
and i see this uh squad car just make a

702
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:20,400
right turn waiting for me

703
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:24,559
and then i'm like no way no way

704
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:27,200
and then i get to the red light and bam

705
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:28,559
they put on their lights

706
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,720
i as soon as they actually i actually as

707
00:25:34,870 --> 00:25:32,080
soon as they put up their lights

708
00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:34,880
i used siri very discreetly and i said

709
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,200
uh

710
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,440
facetime talia and so facetimes my my

711
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:39,279
sister i'll never forget this she says

712
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,840
uh

713
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,600
lucas give me two minutes and i'm just

714
00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:43,200
yelling into the phone i'm getting

715
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:44,880
arrested i'm getting arrested again

716
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:45,760
she's like

717
00:25:53,590 --> 00:25:49,520
okay and then i hang up the phone um

718
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:53,600
i pull over the officer's like um

719
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:55,360
do you know why i'm stopping you i'm

720
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,919
like you're probably gonna arrest me

721
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,600
and he's like he's like why would i do

722
00:26:02,549 --> 00:26:01,279
that and i give him my id he's like i

723
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:02,559
need you to step out of the vehicle and

724
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,390
let me ask you i mean something inside

725
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:10,559
tells me that i would think the police

726
00:26:14,149 --> 00:26:12,640
would it would kind of be on your side i

727
00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:14,159
mean did you get a sense i thought so

728
00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,480
too

729
00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:17,520
but um asking them why they're doing

730
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:18,000
this

731
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:20,159
and you know i always tell them like

732
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,600
this is ridiculous and this and that

733
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,039
super respectively though

734
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:25,440
um they just tell me how it's out of

735
00:26:28,149 --> 00:26:26,559
their control

736
00:26:30,789 --> 00:26:28,159
they're just doing their job and they

737
00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:30,799
love telling me this is a joke that uh

738
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,039
law enforcement loves is telling people

739
00:26:38,789 --> 00:26:35,279
when they ask them questions is uh

740
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:38,799
it's out of my pay grade above my pay

741
00:26:44,310 --> 00:26:42,480
out of my pay grade yeah so you had so

742
00:26:46,230 --> 00:26:44,320
so three different times they had tried

743
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,240
to essentially barricade your

744
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:48,159
establishment through one form or

745
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,799
another and each time you

746
00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:52,799
broke through it essentially correct i

747
00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:55,360
broke through onto my own property

748
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:58,480
so then eventually california does start

749
00:27:01,750 --> 00:26:59,120
losing

750
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,760
loosening up a couple months ago and

751
00:27:05,909 --> 00:27:02,640
they allow

752
00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:05,919
first outdoor dining again then they

753
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:06,559
allow

754
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,880
but am i correct that you guys have not

755
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:13,840
been able to

756
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,120
be open despite the fact that now

757
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,840
newsom says you're allowed to be open

758
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:21,279
ever since california

759
00:27:25,110 --> 00:27:24,559
loosened up uh the local authorities

760
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:25,120
have

761
00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:27,600
really hammered on hammered in on us to

762
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:29,600
make sure that we're permanently closed

763
00:27:32,070 --> 00:27:30,080
but

764
00:27:34,070 --> 00:27:32,080
uh we will prevail from this uh we've

765
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:34,080
been closed for about three i want about

766
00:27:40,149 --> 00:27:37,840
three weeks now so so you try

767
00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:40,159
let me understand did you try to reopen

768
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:42,799
along with the california reopening

769
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:45,760
oh yeah of course but um city of burbank

770
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:46,880
los angeles they're like

771
00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:49,520
nope you're gonna get punished for uh

772
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:54,389
but you haven't been convicted yet have

773
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,240
you no

774
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:58,640
no still innocent i mean i got a court

775
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,440
date coming up

776
00:28:03,510 --> 00:28:01,200
i got a personal court date for my

777
00:28:06,149 --> 00:28:03,520
misdemeanors on

778
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,159
june 4th and then there's another uh

779
00:28:11,350 --> 00:28:07,840
tinhorn court

780
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,360
on uh july 15th so these are misdemeanor

781
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:13,360
charges

782
00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:15,520
innocent before proven guilty right so

783
00:28:17,430 --> 00:28:16,880
you're still i don't know how guilty i

784
00:28:19,269 --> 00:28:17,440
could be

785
00:28:21,029 --> 00:28:19,279
but i don't know what i'll be guilty of

786
00:28:24,070 --> 00:28:21,039
yet yet they're punishing you

787
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:24,080
now by where as all of your

788
00:28:29,510 --> 00:28:27,919
competitors are now open you guys are

789
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,520
being punished every day right now by

790
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:31,279
not being allowed to be open

791
00:28:36,230 --> 00:28:34,320
right right and uh a valid

792
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:36,240
point that a lot of the haters like to

793
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,080
bring up is well you know

794
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:40,080
uh that restaurant down the street is

795
00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,120
complying and

796
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:43,520
it why did you not have to comply why

797
00:28:46,070 --> 00:28:44,159
would you be

798
00:28:48,149 --> 00:28:46,080
let off the hook well i like telling him

799
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,159
hey we took a chance

800
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:51,120
we asked other businesses to join us and

801
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:52,159
to

802
00:28:56,710 --> 00:28:54,480
go against these mandates and orders

803
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:56,720
that are not laws none of these are laws

804
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:59,360
and to join us in standing up and

805
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:00,640
continuing business

806
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:03,120
uh professionally and for those

807
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,799
restaurants that didn't and they just

808
00:29:07,830 --> 00:29:06,720
bit the bullet and half of them went out

809
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:07,840
of business

810
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,039
um i mean it's really sad

811
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:13,120
it's really sad that they didn't join us

812
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:14,240
but that's my

813
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:17,200
main defense as a businesses or people

814
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:19,039
telling me that others complied and

815
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:20,559
others did this well i tell them

816
00:29:26,549 --> 00:29:23,840
you should not have yeah yeah i mean

817
00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:26,559
you you took the legal position that

818
00:29:31,909 --> 00:29:28,000
these shutdown orders were

819
00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:31,919
were illegal right and chose to open

820
00:29:35,510 --> 00:29:34,320
because you you you thought that they

821
00:29:35,750 --> 00:29:35,520
ultimately are going to be determined to

822
00:29:38,870 --> 00:29:35,760
be

823
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:38,880
illegal or unconstitutional yeah i

824
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:41,440
i believe that this whole shutdown was

825
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:42,240
illegal

826
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:46,080
and for um a lot of

827
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,320
people saying that oh uh restaurants are

828
00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,480
legally allowed to open up or

829
00:29:53,590 --> 00:29:52,960
um they're legally allowed to do this

830
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,600
there

831
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,919
this is not legal none of this has to do

832
00:30:00,149 --> 00:29:57,440
with illegal or

833
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,159
uh legal not illegal it's it's the whole

834
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:01,679
thing is illegal the whole shutdown is

835
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:02,559
illegal

836
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:06,480
did you try um did you make efforts

837
00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:10,080
to either sue over it or join in any

838
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:10,640
other

839
00:30:16,310 --> 00:30:13,840
lawsuits that we're trying to to uh

840
00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:16,320
hold the new some standards to be

841
00:30:19,590 --> 00:30:17,360
illegal

842
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:19,600
yeah we're we're in a lawsuit right now

843
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:21,760
with the city of burbank and even

844
00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:24,960
los angeles county at the moment

845
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,720
is that is that on your own are you part

846
00:30:31,029 --> 00:30:29,360
of a a group oh no it's on our own it's

847
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:31,039
on our own

848
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:34,240
and mark garagos oops lost my video

849
00:30:38,070 --> 00:30:34,960
there you go

850
00:30:40,630 --> 00:30:38,080
mark garagos is representing you yes

851
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:40,640
mark gary goes is doing a fantastic job

852
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:42,000
in representing us

853
00:30:45,909 --> 00:30:44,080
so is he representing you on the

854
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:45,919
criminal charges that you're facing

855
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,520
because i know that he's historically a

856
00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:49,679
a criminal defense handling

857
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:53,760
the whole messy situation

858
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:57,039
so he's also the one leading

859
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:00,159
your lawsuit against the city correct

860
00:31:06,389 --> 00:31:04,480
yes yeah he by the way represented me

861
00:31:07,750 --> 00:31:06,399
back in the day when i really had a

862
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:07,760
little few hours

863
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:10,480
yeah he's also armenian isn't he he sure

864
00:31:13,029 --> 00:31:11,039
is

865
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:13,039
yeah yeah good very very good guy very

866
00:31:17,269 --> 00:31:14,240
good guy

867
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:17,279
so um what

868
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:19,120
and just bring us up to speed as exactly

869
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:20,399
where it sits

870
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:23,120
today and and and what is it that's

871
00:31:26,870 --> 00:31:24,480
keeping you guys

872
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:26,880
from opening because they tried to shut

873
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,480
you down in the past and you cut through

874
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:30,240
the padlocks and you cut down the fence

875
00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:31,600
you did whatever you had to do to be

876
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:32,080
open

877
00:31:36,389 --> 00:31:34,000
what are they doing now that's keep

878
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:36,399
preventing you from being open

879
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:38,240
well getting arrested every day was not

880
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:40,000
my favorite thing but to be honest with

881
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:41,360
you i still would have done it

882
00:31:44,470 --> 00:31:43,600
i still would have gotten arrested after

883
00:31:45,909 --> 00:31:44,480
every knife

884
00:31:47,909 --> 00:31:45,919
i was able to make it into the

885
00:31:49,110 --> 00:31:47,919
restaurant and operate business and get

886
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:49,120
arrested at the end of the night i would

887
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:49,679
have done

888
00:31:53,269 --> 00:31:52,559
a problem but um they were really out

889
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,279
for me

890
00:31:59,590 --> 00:31:56,399
and as of now there is

891
00:32:03,669 --> 00:31:59,600
i don't even know how there is a entire

892
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:03,679
fence uh built by the city

893
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:06,159
barricading anything from entering tin

894
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:07,600
horn flats we're getting even near it

895
00:32:13,190 --> 00:32:08,720
there's a

896
00:32:14,789 --> 00:32:13,200
it's like it's like the cap the us

897
00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:14,799
capital perimeter yeah

898
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:17,919
there's a really um high-end

899
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:20,399
fence it's a it's a good-looking fence

900
00:32:25,590 --> 00:32:23,360
just used for the wrong purposes

901
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,600
not allow anyone from entering tin horn

902
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:27,760
flats and then as well as the sandbags

903
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:29,600
which i got arrested for the third time

904
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:32,880
are are there uh police uh surrounding

905
00:32:37,350 --> 00:32:36,080
the building um they've loosened up a

906
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:37,360
little bit but there's

907
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,600
always police just passing by just

908
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:41,200
passing by and then when we have our

909
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:43,039
rallies on saturday they're just hanging

910
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:44,320
out there

911
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:46,240
so tell us about the rallies how did

912
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,919
that get started and how big are those

913
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,120
getting

914
00:32:52,310 --> 00:32:51,120
um the rallies were was started by our

915
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:52,320
supporters which

916
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,399
are just the best of the best people

917
00:33:01,190 --> 00:32:58,799
the best of the best supporters and just

918
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:01,200
always there for us when we were able to

919
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:03,360
operate inside and they're still there

920
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:05,200
for us when we have these rallies on

921
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:06,960
saturdays and they're really a fun time

922
00:33:10,630 --> 00:33:07,360
you know

923
00:33:12,789 --> 00:33:10,640
um uh we'll be able to we we barbecue

924
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:12,799
burgers at a certain location and then

925
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:13,919
uh

926
00:33:17,430 --> 00:33:15,760
we bring them over to 101 flies and i

927
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:17,440
just love giving them the people

928
00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,519
and then people will drop some donations

929
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:20,960
for them but just the fact that they're

930
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:21,919
out here

931
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:24,880
out at tin horn flats and just um

932
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:25,840
peacefully

933
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:30,320
horn flats and

934
00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:33,760
uh really talking out to what the media

935
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:37,279
and um local government have done to us

936
00:33:40,950 --> 00:33:38,480
it's just disgusting

937
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,960
uh you know there's some t-shirts that

938
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:41,760
you're able to

939
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:44,320
get and then drop a donation and then

940
00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:44,799
you know

941
00:33:49,029 --> 00:33:46,640
mostly mostly white supremacists that

942
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:49,039
are out in front

943
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:52,399
of incorrect for once incorrect

944
00:33:55,590 --> 00:33:54,559
uh we're just i mean what kind of people

945
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:55,600
i'm supporters

946
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,159
what kind of people are they they're

947
00:34:02,149 --> 00:34:00,159
just tender they're just 101 supporters

948
00:34:05,909 --> 00:34:02,159
they're small business supporters

949
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,919
uh conservatives all conservatives um

950
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:06,799
yeah they're just

951
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:10,159
they're just normal people they are yeah

952
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,240
well you know the the other restaurants

953
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:14,240
ought to be supporting you also even the

954
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:16,560
ones that were closed while you guys

955
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:19,200
were open because you know without these

956
00:34:22,550 --> 00:34:21,040
kind of pressures

957
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:22,560
you know i i think that we would still

958
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:24,560
be under more severe lockdowns

959
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,480
than we are i mean it requires people

960
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:28,480
speaking up and saying that no we're not

961
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:29,040
going to be

962
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:32,240
sheep we're not just going to blindly

963
00:34:35,589 --> 00:34:34,960
follow these these orders the individual

964
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:35,599
freedom

965
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:37,760
is at stake and even if it is just the

966
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,960
freedom to go have a

967
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:41,280
burger and a beer that's the kind of

968
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:42,000
freedoms that

969
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:44,560
we're talking about here in america was

970
00:34:48,069 --> 00:34:45,919
built around this country

971
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:48,079
that was founded yeah and and the left

972
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,520
just doesn't really appreciate

973
00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:51,200
individual freedoms and the best example

974
00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:51,919
of that

975
00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:55,359
is mayor bloomberg in new york who says

976
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:57,359
that people should not be able to get

977
00:35:01,670 --> 00:34:58,880
more than a 16 ounce

978
00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:01,680
soda because in his mind it's it's bad

979
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:02,560
for you

980
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,079
um it's like well thanks doctor

981
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:08,160
i'll take it under advisement but i live

982
00:35:11,109 --> 00:35:09,280
in america

983
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,119
where i get to make a decision how much

984
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:12,800
soda to drink

985
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,000
no matter how bad it is for me

986
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,880
and and it's those basic rudimentary

987
00:35:22,230 --> 00:35:20,320
individual rights that

988
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:22,240
i don't know people don't seem to

989
00:35:25,190 --> 00:35:23,359
appreciate

990
00:35:26,710 --> 00:35:25,200
as much as they should and are just

991
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:26,720
willing to let them go

992
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:30,240
um very what do they know about

993
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,520
a lot of these people they don't

994
00:35:36,150 --> 00:35:33,760
understand that their rights

995
00:35:37,829 --> 00:35:36,160
are being just stripped away from them

996
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,839
right in front of their eyes and

997
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:40,000
a lot of these people that even even

998
00:35:44,069 --> 00:35:41,200
though they do

999
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:44,079
know that the rights are taken away

1000
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:45,200
they're okay with it

1001
00:35:48,550 --> 00:35:47,119
they they believe that it's for the

1002
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:48,560
greater good

1003
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:51,760
right and um you know look

1004
00:35:55,109 --> 00:35:53,280
if if there was some exiting

1005
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:55,119
circumstance i'm not opposed to

1006
00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:56,720
certain reasonable requirements i mean

1007
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:58,240
when it looked like we could have

1008
00:36:01,510 --> 00:35:59,280
hospitals

1009
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:01,520
flooded with people and people dying on

1010
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:02,800
the streets

1011
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:05,440
i was supportive of of mandates remember

1012
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:06,560
the three weeks to

1013
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:08,880
to slow the spread and and and so on i

1014
00:36:13,190 --> 00:36:10,480
mean that was fine but

1015
00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:13,200
we're into our second year here this

1016
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,800
thing is going to probably go into a

1017
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:16,000
third year

1018
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:19,040
and this is just absolutely getting to a

1019
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:19,440
level

1020
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:22,560
of of absurdity and once you take away

1021
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:23,359
people's

1022
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,680
rights getting them back i mean they

1023
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:27,200
always say that about america right man

1024
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:28,480
you lose america you're never going to

1025
00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:29,839
get it back and i you did kind of

1026
00:36:31,589 --> 00:36:30,320
scratch your

1027
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:31,599
like what are they really talking about

1028
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,160
but you see that with covid

1029
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:36,480
they've taken away rights from us and

1030
00:36:40,390 --> 00:36:37,359
man we got a

1031
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:40,400
fight in claw to get them back i mean

1032
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:42,000
this mask mandate

1033
00:36:45,349 --> 00:36:44,560
they act like oh as long as we let

1034
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:45,359
people

1035
00:36:49,589 --> 00:36:48,160
go 50 to a restaurant make them continue

1036
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,599
to wear masks and make them continue

1037
00:36:53,030 --> 00:36:51,119
this that it's not a big deal

1038
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,040
it is a big deal wearing a mask is a big

1039
00:36:56,230 --> 00:36:55,200
deal requiring me to cover two-thirds of

1040
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,240
my face with a

1041
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:58,560
piece of cloth everywhere i go that is a

1042
00:37:04,870 --> 00:36:59,680
big deal

1043
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:07,589
so so and the ironic thing for you guys

1044
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:08,079
is

1045
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:12,720
helped

1046
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:15,599
us get open by you know objecting to

1047
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,640
these things

1048
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,400
and now you're the one sitting there

1049
00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:20,079
closed yep

1050
00:37:25,990 --> 00:37:23,440
super ironic yeah uh

1051
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:26,000
well um you're racking up damages every

1052
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:26,640
day

1053
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:29,599
so um you know i think the city is going

1054
00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:31,440
to be liable to you

1055
00:37:34,470 --> 00:37:33,359
for these damages they're punishing you

1056
00:37:37,589 --> 00:37:34,480
without having been

1057
00:37:38,470 --> 00:37:37,599
convicted i get the fines i mean you

1058
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:38,480
know you guys should

1059
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:41,119
chose to roll the dice and um you know

1060
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:43,280
whether the fines are legal or not

1061
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:46,480
you know who knows but um

1062
00:37:49,910 --> 00:37:47,920
shutting down your business i don't know

1063
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:49,920
where they get the right to shut down

1064
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:51,040
your business when everybody else is

1065
00:37:54,150 --> 00:37:52,320
open

1066
00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:54,160
no they have absolutely no right to shut

1067
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:55,440
down our business

1068
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:59,520
for um for their reasoning i mean like

1069
00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:01,040
you said there's there's no science

1070
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:02,880
there's no data

1071
00:38:07,829 --> 00:38:06,160
around the the the shutdowns of

1072
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:07,839
outdoor dining i mean it's almost the

1073
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:10,160
most random thing they could have chosen

1074
00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:10,800
this

1075
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:14,000
outdoor dining right how how do you

1076
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:16,079
even think about that and this outdoor

1077
00:38:19,990 --> 00:38:17,440
dining people who need to

1078
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:20,000
you know most people in the country have

1079
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:21,359
dealt with outdoor dining but in

1080
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:22,800
particular in la it was

1081
00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:24,240
pretty successful because we have pretty

1082
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:26,800
good weather and the tables were very

1083
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:28,320
far apart from each other

1084
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:30,160
right the waiters and waitresses are

1085
00:38:31,990 --> 00:38:31,599
still wearing masks as they come up to

1086
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:32,000
you in fact

1087
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:33,280
most of them wearing double masks

1088
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:34,800
whenever i went out they had the mask

1089
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,160
and the shield i could barely understand

1090
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:37,760
what they were saying

1091
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:39,920
there's no menus it's all on your phone

1092
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:41,839
i mean all these precautions

1093
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:45,599
that were put in place yeah i mean i i

1094
00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:46,480
personally believe

1095
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:50,000
that um if you're working

1096
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:53,040
and um people decide to come on in

1097
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:56,000
it should be your own choice to wear the

1098
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:57,839
face mask and the face shield if you

1099
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:00,000
want to wear it by all means wear it but

1100
00:39:04,710 --> 00:39:02,240
if you don't it's your life

1101
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:04,720
it's your health and the people that are

1102
00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:06,320
coming in it's their life

1103
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:08,880
and their health and the way you decide

1104
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:10,400
to protect your own life is an

1105
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:11,760
individual choice

1106
00:39:15,190 --> 00:39:14,400
yeah well lucas i'll wrap it up there

1107
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:15,200
i'm just gonna

1108
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:17,839
personally thank you uh for what you did

1109
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:18,320
and for

1110
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:21,280
spending the three albeit short periods

1111
00:39:24,870 --> 00:39:22,480
um

1112
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:24,880
in jail i mean i would sit at home

1113
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:27,760
stewing about all this stuff

1114
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,119
am i doing it everybody's got to do

1115
00:39:33,670 --> 00:39:31,119
their part you know on this

1116
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:33,680
and i've done podcasts on it so i guess

1117
00:39:36,790 --> 00:39:35,520
i sort of did my part but you know

1118
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:36,800
some extent felt i should have been out

1119
00:39:39,270 --> 00:39:38,480
on the street you know with with my

1120
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:39,280
signs but

1121
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:42,960
but my view you you did more than your

1122
00:39:45,589 --> 00:39:43,680
part

1123
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:45,599
thank you thank you i appreciate that we

1124
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:46,960
wouldn't be able i wouldn't be able to

1125
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:48,000
do what i did

1126
00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:50,240
or not have the passion or go as far as

1127
00:39:53,349 --> 00:39:51,040
we did without

1128
00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:53,359
wonderful supporters like yourself and

1129
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:54,240
mr duke

1130
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:57,280
peter duke and uh all these hundreds of

1131
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:58,960
supporters that we have through social

1132
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:00,960
media and whatever it is

1133
00:40:06,069 --> 00:40:04,160
um i thank them i thank them all

1134
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,079
when we prevail it'll be a very special

1135
00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:08,000
time yeah uh so real quick

1136
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,079
what what can people do to support you

1137
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:12,400
as far as the rallies or anything else

1138
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:14,480
there's quite a few things you can do to

1139
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,599
support us y'all

1140
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:17,440
um you can come on down to our rallies

1141
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:20,319
every saturday from about two to six

1142
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:23,440
um you can purchase a shirt online for i

1143
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:24,560
believe they're 18

1144
00:40:31,670 --> 00:40:28,880
or 20 on a tin horn flats merch 360

1145
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:31,680
or you can last resort if you don't

1146
00:40:33,990 --> 00:40:32,800
really want to share

1147
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:34,000
you're too far away or you don't want to

1148
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:35,680
come out to a rally you can always uh

1149
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:36,480
donate our

1150
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:39,440
at our gofundme and the title of that is

1151
00:40:44,150 --> 00:40:40,800
uh tinhorn flats

1152
00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,160
legal defense fund cool okay we'll post

1153
00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:46,079
all those for everybody too and

1154
00:40:49,430 --> 00:40:48,319
um make it easy for people just to click

1155
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:49,440
on a link totally

1156
00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:51,200
totally and then make sure we get a

1157
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,880
follow on instagram

1158
00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:54,720
and oh here's one more so we have we

1159
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:56,000
have an instagram very

1160
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,599
successful instagram we're about close

1161
00:41:02,390 --> 00:40:59,200
to 12 000 followers

1162
00:41:05,829 --> 00:41:02,400
but when you search up tinhorn flat

1163
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:05,839
all the fake instagrams of hate mail and

1164
00:41:08,390 --> 00:41:07,440
just hate speech against me and my

1165
00:41:10,230 --> 00:41:08,400
family and tinhorn

1166
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:10,240
come up first before the real tin one

1167
00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:12,000
flats does so make sure you follow the

1168
00:41:15,270 --> 00:41:14,000
real tin on flats not the phony ones

1169
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,280
that are just slandering

1170
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:18,000
us and uh yeah and then report the other

1171
00:41:20,470 --> 00:41:18,720
ones please

1172
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:20,480
please report the other ones thank you

1173
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,560
again to our guest lucas lopezian

1174
00:41:26,870 --> 00:41:25,200
if you want to support him please go to

1175
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:26,880
his gofundme

1176
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:29,680
campaign or buy one of his t-shirts

1177
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:31,920
we'll put links on our facebook

1178
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:35,760
uh as well as in the uh description

1179
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:37,200
for you to click on a link and to

1180
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:39,760
support lucas's effort we certainly hope

1181
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,680
that he will be back in business soon of

1182
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:43,599
course if you live in the la area

1183
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:46,800
you can go by and participate in

1184
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,079
one of their gatherings on a saturday

1185
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:52,000
and hopefully they'll be open soon and

1186
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,400
you can go enjoy a burger and a beer

1187
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:56,240
at tin horn flats thank you to our

1188
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,520
producer michael parker we'll be back

1189
00:42:05,349 --> 00:41:59,040
soon with another episode of the hidden

1190
00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,870
thank you for listening to the truth

1191
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:08,640
show with jim breslow

1192
00:42:14,829 --> 00:42:12,160
you can find us at hiddentruthshow.com

1193
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:14,839
follow us on facebook twitter and

1194
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:16,240
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1195
00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,880
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